Comments on: A Horror Story Redux

By: WONDERING

WONDERING — Wed, 15 Jun 2011 04:26:53 +0000

OKLAHOMA DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS

Name
HAROLD SHORTER
ODOC#: 210599
Birth Date: 07/27/1957

Appearance
White Male; 6 ft. 1 in. tall; 270 pounds; Brown hair; Blue eyes;

Sentence
CRF# County Offense Conviction Term Term Code Start End

91-103 DELA Rape, First Degree 11/04/1992 15Y 0M 0D Incarceration 04/24/2005 05/06/2011
91-103 DELA Rape, First Degree 11/04/1992 15Y 0M 0D Incarceration 03/08/1999 04/24/2005
91-103 DELA Rape, First Degree 11/04/1992 15Y 0M 0D Incarceration 12/08/1992 03/08/1999

Facility
Current Facility Phone# Reception Date Discharge Date Parole Hearing Date

INACTIVE 12/08/1992 05/05/2011 09/9999

By: WONDERING

WONDERING — Wed, 15 Jun 2011 04:19:58 +0000

Vicky Mountford’s first husband was none other than Harold Shorter, former Grove, Ok police officer amd convicted child rapist in the early nineties. Shorter recently was released from Okla state prison system where he served his lengthy stay for child rape.Harold Shorter and convicted child rapist is also the bio father to Matina Shorter Garner and foster to adopt mother to the baby fathered by Mountford. Wonder if Harold Shorter will rekindle his relationship with his bio daughter and serve as the “Grandpa” to the baby of Mountford and his child victim?
And….strange how Vicky Shorter Mountford was married to two men who were both convicted of child rape while being married to her. Hmmmmm…
And, DHS has knowlingly placed this poor baby in this situation?

By: An Open Mind

An Open Mind — Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:20:12 +0000

Wow, So many judges, ready to judge and convict, I must be in the presence of saints. I am not a religious zealot, but never was the phrase more appropriate than here, when I say, Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!

Unfortunately, those of you who chose to judge can neither read, nor do simple subtraction. This girl was removed from her biological parents 3 years prior to this incident – she was 11 years old – and presumably placed in a “safe” environment. Instead, this 11 year old child was placed in a foster home where she was repeatedly raped over a 3 year period. I am not a psychologist or psychiatrist, but have read enough to know that when children are subjected to sexual abuse, their abuser makes them feel worthless, guilty and that they are the cause of the pergatory that is forced upon them and they do not deserve to be treated in any other way.

To the 39 year old male who even attempts to paint the 11 year old child as a “Lolita”, initiating the advances and “tempting” an older man, I can only say that you need a lot more help then you think.

To the writer who stated that the “system let the family down”, I am forced to ask, “In what way did the system fail the family?” In not teaching a 49 year old “morals” and “manners” ? In not teaching a 49 year old male how to treat a child who was placed in his home for safety reasons ? For not teaching the 49 year old that he was more than 3 times this child’s age and that it was noT only wrong, to force himself on a child and have sex with her, but was also indicative of a very sick mind ?

I beg to differ with you, but it is not the obligatIon of the “System” to teach a 49 year old male that such conduct is sick in any society, civilized, or otherwise. But, as usual, why not blame the system ? Then nobody has to take responsibility for any of their actions and all individuals will blame the system for whatever they do.

And I am left speechless by the individual who cast this criminal act as a casual faux pas, with the thought that “Oh, well, he made one mistake, but since he’s going to pay for that one mistake the rest of his life, there’s no harm no foul inflicted on the child”,

So, why don’t we just pass the hat around ? After all, this 49 year old child molester will need money for his legal defense”. Let’s all pitch in since the “System” has failed him and his family. There’s something very warped in one’s thinking when the abuser is made to look like the victim.

By: Someone who cares

Someone who cares — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:37:01 +0000

This is to all that think they know everything.. Have you all ever thought the the system let the family down by not getting the young girl help when they asked them too?????? No Mrs. Mountford should not be punshed for what Mr. mountford did.. yes he needs to pay for what he did.. But If you look at the case with isbell you will see that she consented because he thought her that it was right to go after adult men… Mountford is the adult in this case i see that.. have you ever thought of any other men that she has went after and their family? What should they do to these girl that are raised like her that send men to jail every day and everyone said poor her, no it is i feel sorry for his wife and kids.. Mountford is not a rapist he made one bad choise that he will live with for the rest of his live.. There are reports of other men this girl has went after but do you think the write that in this no they want you to see poor lil girl .. you think you can sit and judge you should have her live with you and see what you go through.. when you have been through what vicki and her kids have you will be saying sorry… no sitting on you computer saying vicki should pay she had no clue so back off… and you and everyone else one day will now what happened in this case.. for one you should rent the little loleta it will show you what the girl was like… that is all i am say for to night… If you are christians pray for the family don’t bash them…

By: Susie Homemaker

Susie Homemaker — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:55:00 +0000

Hey Anon,
Before you start dropping terms like “skank”, “Whore” and “slut” why don’t you FIND out what the girls situation was. And the reason why they are not charged is because they are CHILDREN who are under the supervision of an ADULT. For one, they are scared. Imagine yourself for just one minute in her shoes. Until you have walked in them, I suggest you not judge.
I hope this girl gets the help she deserves. I also hope that Mr. Mountford gets what he deserves. But, knowing our justice system, and Delaware County I’m sure he will be free very soon having more foster kids to assault. What’s even more disturbing is I know him. My child was in his care for a period of time. He is very lucky that I live far far away.
God will give him what he deserves.

By: anon

anon — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:33:15 +0000

The wife asked the husband to leave the room? Had she been suspicous of some activity going on? If so, then she could be arrested for not reporting sooner. Or maybe she sensed something when she confronted the girl. Either way, she could tell the girl did not want to talk about it with the man present.
It makes sense to hold the grown adult more responsible in situations like this, but why do we assume that these kids aren’t fully aware, and willing to do this type of sleazy behavior? Why do they get a complete and total pass? I can see giving them a pass when they are thirteen or under, like this girl was. 14 is a bit iffy, depending on the kid, but when kids reach fifteen and engage in sexual activity, then they reach the age where they can accurately be described as sluts and whores, be they male or female.
I don’t know this girls situation. Being in a foster home no doubt left her in an unusually vulnerable state, even for a child. However, there are plenty of fifteen year old skanky whores walking around who should not be given a total pass. Why aren’t juveniles charged with sexual deviancy when they engage with someone over eighteen?